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	<title>Comments on: Origins of Bizarre Nazca &amp; Paracas Pottery — A Theory</title>
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		<title>By: Cliff Richey</title>
		<link>http://natureofmind.org/25/origins-of-bizarre-nazca-paracas-pottery-a-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-1678</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Richey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems doubtful to me that so many cultures throughout the Americas would use drugs to come up with such similarly fantastic shapes. If one surveys the compositions of the different cultures one begins to see the same basic elements used over and over again. Hundreds of these elements can be found documented in texts on sign language that was used for trade and communication between the cultures. It is much more likely that ,at some point in time, the gestures signs were transposed over to a written form. This would allow for the transmission of important cosmological concepts over the generations. The compositional system had rules which often resulted in odd shapes and imagery but the purpose was communication. For more information about written sign language see: http://www.scribd.com/doc/62248808/The-Golden-One-A-Nazcan-Glyph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems doubtful to me that so many cultures throughout the Americas would use drugs to come up with such similarly fantastic shapes. If one surveys the compositions of the different cultures one begins to see the same basic elements used over and over again. Hundreds of these elements can be found documented in texts on sign language that was used for trade and communication between the cultures. It is much more likely that ,at some point in time, the gestures signs were transposed over to a written form. This would allow for the transmission of important cosmological concepts over the generations. The compositional system had rules which often resulted in odd shapes and imagery but the purpose was communication. For more information about written sign language see: <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/62248808/The-Golden-One-A-Nazcan-Glyph" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/62248808/The-Golden-One-A-Nazcan-Glyph</a></p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://natureofmind.org/25/origins-of-bizarre-nazca-paracas-pottery-a-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-1474</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Michael, I took at a look at his books. but I&#039;m usually not convinced of much by argument alone. I&#039;m quite scientifically minded and stubborn and I need good solid evidence before I&#039;ll buy into anything. 

A visit sounds like a good idea. I&#039;ll be back in Peru in the fall. keep in touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Michael, I took at a look at his books. but I&#8217;m usually not convinced of much by argument alone. I&#8217;m quite scientifically minded and stubborn and I need good solid evidence before I&#8217;ll buy into anything. </p>
<p>A visit sounds like a good idea. I&#8217;ll be back in Peru in the fall. keep in touch.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://natureofmind.org/25/origins-of-bizarre-nazca-paracas-pottery-a-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-1473</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at Graham Hancock&#039;s book, Supernatural - Meetings With the Ancient Teachers of Mankind. He makes a very compelling argument along the same lines.

I am hoping to start a retreat in the Amazon to explore these very issues. My wife is Peruvian and we have 800 acres of virgin land in the rainforest near Tarapoto and Yurimaguas. Maybe you can visit one day ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at Graham Hancock&#8217;s book, Supernatural &#8211; Meetings With the Ancient Teachers of Mankind. He makes a very compelling argument along the same lines.</p>
<p>I am hoping to start a retreat in the Amazon to explore these very issues. My wife is Peruvian and we have 800 acres of virgin land in the rainforest near Tarapoto and Yurimaguas. Maybe you can visit one day <img src='http://natureofmind.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a text on the net &#039;enter the jaguar&#039; which discusses the use of hallucinogenic cacti and dmt containing plant sources at the south american &#039;chavin de huantar&#039; site. There&#039;s also a documentary on youtube about it. Paul devereux mentions the site as well in his book &#039;the long trip: a history of psychedelia&#039;. Some other antropologists who wrote about the plant hallucinogens include reichel dolmatoff, dobkin de rios and stefan de borhegyi. Another good read is &#039;hallucinogens and culture&#039; and of course the writings of Terence Mckenna. This is a very fascinating subject, there&#039;s been a small but dedicated crowd, and there&#039;s still a lot to be discovered. have a nice day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a text on the net &#8216;enter the jaguar&#8217; which discusses the use of hallucinogenic cacti and dmt containing plant sources at the south american &#8216;chavin de huantar&#8217; site. There&#8217;s also a documentary on youtube about it. Paul devereux mentions the site as well in his book &#8216;the long trip: a history of psychedelia&#8217;. Some other antropologists who wrote about the plant hallucinogens include reichel dolmatoff, dobkin de rios and stefan de borhegyi. Another good read is &#8216;hallucinogens and culture&#8217; and of course the writings of Terence Mckenna. This is a very fascinating subject, there&#8217;s been a small but dedicated crowd, and there&#8217;s still a lot to be discovered. have a nice day!</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://natureofmind.org/25/origins-of-bizarre-nazca-paracas-pottery-a-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deryk, your theory is interesting, I&#039;m really skeptic about the chaman culture, here in Perú they still use the ayahuasca, san pedro, coca and other stuff from the jungle, all those plants mixed allows them to get mental states besides the conscience…  about the Paracas and Nazca culture you have to know that this region is near to the tectonic plate(which is the main cause of a lot of earthquakes in this region), well some people say that the alien ships hide inside the cracks of Nazca plate; personally I don&#039;t believe in this theories but who  knows... if you like those bizarre images in Nazcca pottery, you have to check the Mochica culture...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deryk, your theory is interesting, I&#8217;m really skeptic about the chaman culture, here in Perú they still use the ayahuasca, san pedro, coca and other stuff from the jungle, all those plants mixed allows them to get mental states besides the conscience…  about the Paracas and Nazca culture you have to know that this region is near to the tectonic plate(which is the main cause of a lot of earthquakes in this region), well some people say that the alien ships hide inside the cracks of Nazca plate; personally I don&#8217;t believe in this theories but who  knows&#8230; if you like those bizarre images in Nazcca pottery, you have to check the Mochica culture&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miruku, Thanks for your comment. In the months since I wrote the above post, I&#039;ve changed my understanding to exactly what you mention. What surprises me, is that I can&#039;t find any reference in academia of this theory. Most books and papers on the subject of Moche, Nazca, and Paracas civilizations mention the use of hallucinogenic plants such as San Pedro, but when it comes to explaining the fantastic imagery, they don&#039;t connect the dots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miruku, Thanks for your comment. In the months since I wrote the above post, I&#8217;ve changed my understanding to exactly what you mention. What surprises me, is that I can&#8217;t find any reference in academia of this theory. Most books and papers on the subject of Moche, Nazca, and Paracas civilizations mention the use of hallucinogenic plants such as San Pedro, but when it comes to explaining the fantastic imagery, they don&#8217;t connect the dots.</p>
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		<title>By: Miruku</title>
		<link>http://natureofmind.org/25/origins-of-bizarre-nazca-paracas-pottery-a-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>Miruku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nazca People used to take a cacti called &quot;San Pedro&quot; (Wachuma on their native language) wich is similar to peyote (mescaline). This cacti actually makes you see other surfaces on the world while you&#039;re on a non-ordinary state of consciousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nazca People used to take a cacti called &#8220;San Pedro&#8221; (Wachuma on their native language) wich is similar to peyote (mescaline). This cacti actually makes you see other surfaces on the world while you&#8217;re on a non-ordinary state of consciousness.</p>
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		<title>By: Deryk</title>
		<link>http://natureofmind.org/25/origins-of-bizarre-nazca-paracas-pottery-a-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Deryk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robin, when i encounter these other dimensions of reality, either in art, literature, stories of psychedelic explore, or in my own experience, I cannot help but wonder, what is going on? what are these place? are they all self created (it doesn&#039;t seem 100% so) are they windows to other &#039;real&#039; worlds? are they connecting us to the grand mystery, which is nothing other than consciousness? but your final question is the most vital one? how does it help us be good honest, loving, open hearted humans now? I&#039;m not sure how it all connects, but i feel in my heart that it does somehow. The adventure continues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robin, when i encounter these other dimensions of reality, either in art, literature, stories of psychedelic explore, or in my own experience, I cannot help but wonder, what is going on? what are these place? are they all self created (it doesn&#8217;t seem 100% so) are they windows to other &#8216;real&#8217; worlds? are they connecting us to the grand mystery, which is nothing other than consciousness? but your final question is the most vital one? how does it help us be good honest, loving, open hearted humans now? I&#8217;m not sure how it all connects, but i feel in my heart that it does somehow. The adventure continues&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Higgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these images. Birthing, dancing, puking power and beauty, inner and outer woven of one cloth . . . . Usually when we think of aliens, we think of beings from other planets.  This sounds more like beings from parallel universes.  Perhaps in various dream  or trance states we access these other dimensions.  I wonder if the Jungian theory of archetypes and collective unconscious is also an exploration of the wisdom of inconnectedness that goes beyond what we think of as humanity. Many indigeneous cultures had practices that carried people beyond their ego structures so that they opened to other dimensions of knowing. So often art and literature from around the world accesses vivid dreamlike creatures and places that we all seem to recognize -

- and another question is how does this speculation help us in our day to day being/ living/ choices ? . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these images. Birthing, dancing, puking power and beauty, inner and outer woven of one cloth . . . . Usually when we think of aliens, we think of beings from other planets.  This sounds more like beings from parallel universes.  Perhaps in various dream  or trance states we access these other dimensions.  I wonder if the Jungian theory of archetypes and collective unconscious is also an exploration of the wisdom of inconnectedness that goes beyond what we think of as humanity. Many indigeneous cultures had practices that carried people beyond their ego structures so that they opened to other dimensions of knowing. So often art and literature from around the world accesses vivid dreamlike creatures and places that we all seem to recognize -</p>
<p>- and another question is how does this speculation help us in our day to day being/ living/ choices ? . . .</p>
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