Comments on: Can the Buddhist and Scientific Understandings of Mind and Reality be United? http://natureofmind.org/142/buddhist-scientific-mind-reality/ A journal about consciousness, buddhism, cosmology and entheogens. Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:30:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Colin Graham http://natureofmind.org/142/buddhist-scientific-mind-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-2007 Colin Graham Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:05:45 +0000 http://natureofmind.org/?p=142#comment-2007 Good read. I don't like to over think on this, I prefer to just be. It lets me know that the scientist dont really have a clue and the radical thinkers at least have the balls to admit they dont have a clue but still want to throw out ideas regardless. I enjoy observing my thread in the tapestry, thats the fun part :-) Namaste Good read. I don’t like to over think on this, I prefer to just be. It lets me know that the scientist dont really have a clue and the radical thinkers at least have the balls to admit they dont have a clue but still want to throw out ideas regardless.

I enjoy observing my thread in the tapestry, thats the fun part :-)

Namaste

]]> By: EyeOrderChaos http://natureofmind.org/142/buddhist-scientific-mind-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-1682 EyeOrderChaos Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:32:43 +0000 http://natureofmind.org/?p=142#comment-1682 Representations can only represent, but they are presented, and present. That's all you need to know. It takes a miracle to really understand this. Representations can only represent, but they are presented, and present. That’s all you need to know. It takes a miracle to really understand this.

]]> By: Helmut Hansen http://natureofmind.org/142/buddhist-scientific-mind-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-1425 Helmut Hansen Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:39:01 +0000 http://natureofmind.org/?p=142#comment-1425 The Buddhist and Scientific Understandings of Mind and Reality can, of course, be united. The key to this unification is the archetypal structure of the MANDALA. This structure shows, when read in a proper way, how space and time are organized at the most fundamental level. The most interesting aspect of it is the "dual parametrization" of the fundamental constant of c, that is, of the speed of light. As the Mandala is composed of a circle and a square it includes two different ways how the speed of light is physically expressed. By this dual parametrization the "space-time-picture" given by the structure of the Mandala deviates experimentally from the relativistic space-time-picture. In the paper "About the Dual Parametrization of c" some of these ideas are already published. More details can be found on the above-mentioned website of the NPA (Natural Philosophy Alliance). H. Hansen The Buddhist and Scientific Understandings of Mind and Reality can, of course, be united. The key to this unification is the archetypal structure of the MANDALA. This structure shows, when read in a proper way, how space and time are organized at the most fundamental level.

The most interesting aspect of it is the “dual parametrization” of the fundamental constant of c, that is, of the speed of light. As the Mandala is composed of a circle and a square it includes two different ways how the speed of light is physically expressed.

By this dual parametrization the “space-time-picture” given by the structure of the Mandala deviates experimentally from the relativistic space-time-picture.

In the paper “About the Dual Parametrization of c” some of these ideas are already published.

More details can be found on the above-mentioned website of the NPA (Natural Philosophy Alliance).

H. Hansen

]]> By: admin http://natureofmind.org/142/buddhist-scientific-mind-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-69 admin Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:37:28 +0000 http://natureofmind.org/?p=142#comment-69 Great to hear your thoughts again kevin. Yes it is pretty tough to use our crude words for these things. If I follow what you said, everything is a oneness and interconnected, and my position is that it is consciousness that is the thread of the tapestry. It explains how our meat bodies can actually be aware. It explains such mysteries such as how a single celled amoeba can act with such dynamism. I recall that you like the idea of rocks as having awareness, just MUCH slower. Good to hear your ramblings again :) Great to hear your thoughts again kevin. Yes it is pretty tough to use our crude words for these things. If I follow what you said, everything is a oneness and interconnected, and my position is that it is consciousness that is the thread of the tapestry. It explains how our meat bodies can actually be aware. It explains such mysteries such as how a single celled amoeba can act with such dynamism. I recall that you like the idea of rocks as having awareness, just MUCH slower. Good to hear your ramblings again :)

]]> By: kevjoe http://natureofmind.org/142/buddhist-scientific-mind-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-68 kevjoe Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:30:56 +0000 http://natureofmind.org/?p=142#comment-68 I don't follow all that you two say, but I do love the idea of consciousness being at the root end of things. It makes sense to me for instance that any unified thing could be said to be "aware" of itself. i.e pull on one end of a sheet and the other end of the sheet is feels the pull--senses it, reacts to it, is moved by it etc.. And the agent for this kind of awareness is just (just?? I mean it's some kind of miracle really!) the usual 4 forces: electromagnetic, strong and weak, and gravity, all acting between the interconnected bits of the blanket's matter. So maybe our version of awareness is also just "feeling the forces on us". And the entire fabric of the universe such that it is could be said to be self-aware since every bit of it is exerting these forces on every other bit. This stuff is sending my head in circles. That's not really what I meant to say.. just every unity is necessarily "aware" in some sense, and likely the converse as well: self-awareness implies unity. Man, it seems basiclaly impossible to talk about this stuff without running into so many contradictions in the language you use that I keep erasing and trying another way and running into another roadblock and... Thanks for the post, Deryk. And for listening to my ramble. I don’t follow all that you two say, but I do love the idea of consciousness being at the root end of things. It makes sense to me for instance that any unified thing could be said to be “aware” of itself. i.e pull on one end of a sheet and the other end of the sheet is feels the pull–senses it, reacts to it, is moved by it etc.. And the agent for this kind of awareness is just (just?? I mean it’s some kind of miracle really!) the usual 4 forces: electromagnetic, strong and weak, and gravity, all acting between the interconnected bits of the blanket’s matter. So maybe our version of awareness is also just “feeling the forces on us”. And the entire fabric of the universe such that it is could be said to be self-aware since every bit of it is exerting these forces on every other bit.

This stuff is sending my head in circles. That’s not really what I meant to say.. just every unity is necessarily “aware” in some sense, and likely the converse as well: self-awareness implies unity. Man, it seems basiclaly impossible to talk about this stuff without running into so many contradictions in the language you use that I keep erasing and trying another way and running into another roadblock and…
Thanks for the post, Deryk. And for listening to my ramble.

]]> By: admin http://natureofmind.org/142/buddhist-scientific-mind-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-61 admin Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:57:17 +0000 http://natureofmind.org/?p=142#comment-61 Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I should read more Steiner. He always seems to be on to something. Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I should read more Steiner. He always seems to be on to something.

]]> By: Tessa http://natureofmind.org/142/buddhist-scientific-mind-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-60 Tessa Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:50:52 +0000 http://natureofmind.org/?p=142#comment-60 yeah! The Play is the Thing: Follow the Fun... (Rushkoff) Of course it is possible, it is the Truth, neither 'upwards' nor 'downwards' but each working on the other - Relationship. It is time now for a science of relationship. Yes to begins with consciousness and ends with consciousness, that is Soul. There is only one single thought-content of the world, and our individual thinking nothing more than the Self, working it's way into the thought-centre of the world. Like a mechanic, the thinker lets the thought-masses enter into a lively interaction, and they develop into the thought-systems that comprise our sciences. (Steiner) yeah! The Play is the Thing: Follow the Fun… (Rushkoff)
Of course it is possible, it is the Truth, neither ‘upwards’ nor ‘downwards’ but each working on the other – Relationship. It is time now for a science of relationship. Yes to begins with consciousness and ends with consciousness, that is Soul. There is only one single thought-content of the world, and our individual thinking nothing more than the Self, working it’s way into the thought-centre of the world. Like a mechanic, the thinker lets the thought-masses enter into a lively interaction, and they develop into the thought-systems that comprise our sciences. (Steiner)

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